Wizardry 8 The Greatest RPG Ever Made?

This is the excessively long video I made to give my thoughts on Wizardry 8 a magnificent classic video game. I know this video is crazy long but I needed this much time to talk about such a great game ( and I didn’t even succeed in mentioning everything I wanted to.)
Please let me know what your favorite CRPG is in the comments below and what you think of Wizardry 8.
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  • If I could play Baldur's gate series as a Transmuter in Core Rules difficulties, do you think I could have a chance in this game? 🤣
    I aim to become the ULTIMATE RPG GAMER~

    Curios. Cat June 27, 2020 2:33 am Reply
  • I was never bothered by the graphics or the music.

    KnightRiderDDR June 27, 2020 2:33 am Reply
  • I love this game but I feel like I'm missing something if I don't play from 6 to 8 with the same party. I have beat 6 once but I didn't get the ending I wanted and never moved that team to 7. I'd really like to give my 6 to 8 challenge a try again sometime soon.

    Michael Freeman June 27, 2020 2:33 am Reply
  • Best Western RPG ever made? I might have to go with Oblivion or Skyrim.

    Frank Marchetta June 27, 2020 2:33 am Reply
  • Dungeon Crawler sounds a lot cooler then Blobber, and I've always called these games as such.

    On another note, Wizardry 8 is incredible, easily one of the best games of all time.

    Ryan C June 27, 2020 2:33 am Reply
  • Oh man, I almost forgot to link this fantastic Wizardry anime OVA from 1991: https://youtu.be/kOTHNoODYmY?t=1 . I would imagine that most folks here have at least heard of it, but until yesterday I myself had not. It is really neat from the perspective of a Wizardry fan, but it's also a time capsule to a particularly beautiful style of 80s/early-90s anime.

    antoyal June 27, 2020 2:33 am Reply
  • This is a great tribute, and made for a really enjoyable viewing. I played the first three Wizardry games, then missed 4 and 5, then played 6 and missed 7. So yeah, I suppose I wasn't as dedicated a fan of the series as I should have been. But I've been championing Wizardry 8 ever since I first played it. Such a fantastic game!

    One thing that drove my then-roommate crazy was the vocal acknowledgements that your characters give when you click on them. I forget which PC voice it was, but the "Taken care of" order acknowledgement could apparently be heard from anywhere in our house, LOL.

    antoyal June 27, 2020 2:33 am Reply
  • Mages – completely useless in the end. No huge eradication. Long hard road to 120 resistance, you use you max spell and deal 1-2 damage. Dark savant – easiest fight in this game. Amazingly fast and boring end-game boss fight ever…

    Hikuro Ookami June 27, 2020 2:33 am Reply
  • I always name my Gadgeteer "Mac", because the character reminds me of MacGyver. I don't have very clear memories of the series, only one thing: the title character creates something from simple items to get him (was there a beautiful lady, too?) out of trouble. Perhaps Wizardry 8 should be mentioned in "MacGyver in media" in Wikipedia?

    Erkilmarl June 27, 2020 2:33 am Reply
  • My man! This is one of the best, most in-depth reviews I've ever seen. Please keep producing content because this is incredible. I love this game and you're the first person to articulate how awesome this game is so amazingly well. 🤓

    Ryan Corrigal June 27, 2020 2:33 am Reply
  • Im just laughing at your title

    yellow6100 June 27, 2020 2:33 am Reply
  • It probably is.

    Schnuck Sergio June 27, 2020 2:33 am Reply
  • Well, when we compare the passage from 2d graph and 3d, we will find some issues still now in 2020. To me a great exaple its the old Doom and the newly Doom Eternal. When i was teen doom looked to me scarier like (literally) hell. The eternal one sport a fantastic graph but all the charm of the mobs flowed away cuz for me they resamble "world of warcraft" characters… No scarier at all (and dont we talk about the difficulty…).
    The same issue was in the 2000's most game bet all on the 3d graph but still lot of best games runs on 2d at that time. I think ur opinion about chunky 3d sprites spin around the fact u feel much immersive the old 2d, but in my opinion that 3d graph wasnt really that bad in the 2000's.
    Plus, translate a 2d character (basically a picture) on a polygonal model assembled up part by part it was really an easy task back then. Just to think a lot of game released a couple of years later then W8 (Halo, Gauntlet legends and so on) i think that graph definitely wasnt so much bad.

    Marco Piras June 27, 2020 2:33 am Reply
  • I played Wizardry1 on an Apple IIe when it was the only game in town. My favorite of all these are Bard's Tale 1-3, which had an expanded world, great narrative and the first buffs. Might and Magic was also great but considerably more difficult.

    Sitarya June 27, 2020 2:33 am Reply
  • This was a very interesting video. Wizardry 8 looks pretty amazing. The only Wizardry games that I have played are The Proving Ground of the Mad Overlord and Tales of the Forsaken Land.

    David Alvarez June 27, 2020 2:33 am Reply
  • Hey Hey People

    Sebastian Mazur June 27, 2020 2:33 am Reply
  • Did i miss you mentioning the twofold character progression? As in: Your skills improve when you use them AND you can buff them after level ups.

    Mr Scruffy June 27, 2020 2:33 am Reply
  • How you spoke about free-roam blobbers – I already mentioned Aeolwyn's Legacy somewhere – it's a free-roam blobber made by Tim Lang – the guy who was lead designer of MM9 and he did some level design in MM6, 7 and 8. So if you want to try out demo, or just support this project, here's link to the page of Aeolwyn's Legacy: https://www.dungeonbyte.com/aeolwyn-s-legacy
    Also, there's a Discord server for this game and Tim also needs to get any bug reports he can get, or any critique he can get – he really listens to community.

    The other person June 27, 2020 2:33 am Reply
  • For me, the best RPG is Gothic 2. Even though you don't choose who you play as, game feels really good and you have a lot of choices and progression feels really good as well. Gothic 1 also started the action-RPG genre and it was a lot ahead of its time. I finished Gothic 2:Gold Edition yesterday for the first time and oh boy, do I love that game!

    The other person June 27, 2020 2:33 am Reply
  • The samurai is also my favorite, mostly because not many wrpgs have monk ninja or Samurai which are more Japanese rpg style classes. It's awesome

    D C June 27, 2020 2:33 am Reply
  • So as a fan of MM6. I saw a recent review of W8 by SsethTzeentach and he had a discount link. I picked up the game for under $2 NZD. Im enjoying it. The graphics dont bother me much as it looks like a slightly better MM6. The music makes me feel like Im in combat all the time like it needs to calm down. I love when games give you races other than the standard Human, Elf and dwarf. I really really wish more games would give us more than those. I will always choose the non human and or the weirdest race. I love that fairies were included. While I was playing, I was running and forgot stamina drains while you do. My fairy mage always passes out so I just imagine one of the others just picking her up and popping her in a pocket and keep running lol. Im having alot of fun with the game so far. The difficulty spike when I finished Arnika kinda was a bit of a and I oop O_O moment though. Buuuut thats what save scumming is for lol XD

    FF sake June 27, 2020 2:33 am Reply
  • Thanks for reminding me how much I both loved and … well … how frustrating this game was. Definitely way more fun than not. The NPC personalities are fantastic! Wizardry 8 is on my "must complete" list. I played the first Wizardry on the PC (I still have the box) but didn't have the time it required back then. I bought Wizardry 8 when it first came out (still have that box too). I'm retired now and I'm replaying some old favorites. 6 & 7 are on sale on GOG, so maybe I'll try them. But I'm in the middle of Baldur's Gate right now. Planescape Torment is on my "must complete" list as well.

    And yes, I found Trynton to be quite frustrating and I quit more than once in this area. Much the same with the T'Rang/Umpani quests. Yet … I always come back to the game.

    Again, thanks for this great video essay on one of my favorite games. Now to fire up my old PC and I'm off to flood the Cloakwood Mines …

    Dave TheDaemon June 27, 2020 2:33 am Reply
  • well you can't beat Paul Romero in music

    Leverquin June 27, 2020 2:33 am Reply
  • The combat in this game is horrendously slow and has infinite respawning enemies. I used mods to increase the speed by 625× and it was still a slog later on and no matter what felt insanely deadly and unfair even when I optimized. In Baldur's Gate, having real time with pause — while being able to see everything at once — felt much better and I'm surprised anyone felt like BG was clunky and difficult to use.

    ArvelDreth June 27, 2020 2:33 am Reply
  • Hey hey people

    sharpner man June 27, 2020 2:33 am Reply
  • And michael.. Not everyone is just sitting here twiddling their thumbs waiting for everything good to be misused and turned to shite. There are a lot of people working harder than you know to provide solutions to things.. With no help from anyone else.

    woooudo June 27, 2020 2:33 am Reply
  • Sseth brought me here 😎 bought this for $2USD today. Can't wait to start it after I've beaten MM6!

    Kilo Mandarin June 27, 2020 2:33 am Reply
  • Best rpg.. Worst bunch of lets-plays ever with this game: Millions of individual clips that make it hard to download onto a drive, TONS of obnoxious commentary and very few no-commentaries. uGHHH.

    woooudo June 27, 2020 2:33 am Reply
  • Sorry but you are off your head. Wizardry 8 was great but it wasn't even the best Wizardry game. I think 6 and 7 were better. Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 as as well Icewind Dale 1 and 2 eat Wizardry 8 for breakfast.

    avoidconfusion June 27, 2020 2:33 am Reply
  • I personally really like the 3D look but it's because of the nostalgia from my Everquest days

    Dave2713 June 27, 2020 2:33 am Reply
  • Sadly, even with such a superb description the only people that will try the game are from the generation that played it in the first place. I strongly doubt there is new life in this game. Game development has come too far since then. Wizardry 8 has "outdated" written all over it, in fifteen layers of paint. To someone born after 2000, playing this game will feel like playing "Pong 1972". Sorry, but it lived in you and it dies there too.

    Habib Osman June 27, 2020 2:33 am Reply
  • The answer is "no."

    Not sure how you can even use that as a title when you say the game has shitty graphics and mediocre music. There are many fantastic games that excel in those categories as well as gameplay, characters, and storyline. This game is an interesting footnote of history which tickles the nostalgia bone for a cult following rather than anywhere near the greatest. If I was going to try to convince a newcomer that the RPG genre is worth their time, they would more likely be turned off than inspired to play more RPGs by this.

    None of Your Business June 27, 2020 2:33 am Reply
  • Wiz 8 is one of the few games I played to the end. And over the years I started again and again. For example: I made a theme party, or I tried to make the best party, or I made a party with three mages that gave a lot of fire power. Or play with less than 6/8 characters. My suggestion for the Arnika Trynton road: stay on level 4 on this road because the level of your enemies depends on the HIGHEST level you have in your party. Wait with level up until every character can level up. Because of this party level up the bishop is again a bad choice. A party of fighter, thief, priest and mage levels up fast. But the additional characters like Vi and RFS81 make your party a slow learners party. For all serious players: Don't try to play on game setting easy – the game balance is not right on this setting. But google around and inform yourself what a good party should contain. If in doubt, use two fighters, one rogue, one priest and two mages – the very traditional Wizardry party. My actual party is Ninja, rogue, bard, priest, alchemist and mage.

    Andre Adrian June 27, 2020 2:33 am Reply
  • The problem with character creation is that new players don't know what they need or want. You may create a wildly unbalanced party or have useless characters that you spent an hour creating and half the game leveling only to discover that they… well, suck. Those pre-made characters or parties are essential to get started in the game. An experienced player can create the exact party they want, a new or only slightly experienced player needs a helping hand with that.

    uzimonkey June 27, 2020 2:33 am Reply
  • Never played the game but I'm really enjoying the video and now itching to try the game by myself.

    Terry Lynn June 27, 2020 2:33 am Reply
  • You convinced me to try this game out (while sheltering in place).

    Ghost Boxer June 27, 2020 2:33 am Reply
  • You didn't like the soundtrack?! You must be GAY!

    subsrib to pewdepai June 27, 2020 2:33 am Reply
  • I like the Graphic of Wizardry 7 more than the ones of Wizardry Gold.

    Flüssigmetallschleim69 June 27, 2020 2:33 am Reply
  • It is sad, that the Lasersword and the Lasershield from W7 are not in W8.

    Flüssigmetallschleim69 June 27, 2020 2:33 am Reply
  • Lizardman are good in WIzardry 6 and 7, but much weaker in Wizardry 8.

    Flüssigmetallschleim69 June 27, 2020 2:33 am Reply
  • Best rpg game, ever! When are they going to come out with Wizardry 9!? So disappointed they never followed up with this game.

    Mark Droege June 27, 2020 2:33 am Reply
  • Honestly, no. This game was terrible for me. The story was awful, just boring because of too many battles.

    livingoust J June 27, 2020 2:33 am Reply
  • Might and Magic is still around though

    one June 27, 2020 2:33 am Reply
  • I bought Wizardry 8 at Electronics Boutique shortly after it came out, as I had been eagerly awaiting it's release. Unfortunately, the discs had a critical installation issue that prevented me from ever playing it. I returned the game, but because Sir-Tech had gone out of business, it wasn't being offered for reorder. Which seemed appropriate as advertising had been minimal. It went from coming soon and on my radar to released and suddenly unavailable. In the end, I could only exchange it for store credit, and I opted for Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon by Red Storm — twice burned as I had to come out of pocket again to make up the difference in purchase price.

    James Glover June 27, 2020 2:33 am Reply
  • This video is full of O P I N I O N S

    Mercs June 27, 2020 2:33 am Reply
  • funny i bought it on a gog sale last week cos the graphics stud out for me. i like em

    Fourhoursleep June 27, 2020 2:33 am Reply
  • Good lord you went on and on about the graphics. If I want good graphics I would watch a movie and not play a game. I am a mechanic gamer. Not a pretty shiny sparkly gamer. I care for game play. If the gameplay is bad but the graphics is good. I will get so bored of the game so fast. Rarely will I get sucked into a game with bad game play. KotoR 1 and 2 are examples of games with bad core game play but the story is so good. I keep on going even though your just choosing Attacks and watching semi flashy combat going on. Not really doing much but watching and telling your people a few orders.

    I have to agree with you. It is one of the best rpg game ever made. This game was great. I am with you that I do not like how the enemies scale with your level. That is stupid design. I like it more then Might and Magic and other games. I have Wizardy 6,7 and 8. Yet I never game them a fair shot. Now that I know you can import people from each game. I might want to go and do a Wizardy 6-8 run.

    Vela Zhezzaia June 27, 2020 2:33 am Reply
  • Wow what a review? You are good narrator you are. Subbed.

    Mazdy Soraya June 27, 2020 2:33 am Reply
  • I've just reinstalled it after playing it years ago. It's an amazing old-style game (at least compared to nowadays standard) with lots of creativity, a unique mix of fantasy and science fiction. I spent more than an hour just creating the party and loved it.

    Antonio Riccelli June 27, 2020 2:33 am Reply
  • I think the enemies and NPCs look pretty clunky, but I found the environments really charming and lovely, especially for the time. Dear gods, the character creation, images, and even the silly voices. Wasn't much of a fan of the ambient noise (7 was so much better with silence and the rustling of leaves and winds), but especially for a rush-job on a shoe-string, the whole game was just wonderful.

    And now I want to go back and play some Wizardry. The real questions is do I want to start with 6, 7, or 8. Or drive myself nuts and start with the first one lol. The PC port of Labyrinth just came out, so there's that option, too. Time to try to remember my gog.com password lol

    Kat K June 27, 2020 2:33 am Reply

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